We really want to experiment with the format of this conversational show, and this week our co-host Jacob Patterson sits down for a conversation with two team members. Art Director Dino Nama and Real Talk Research Assistant Madelyn Flores listed a bunch of questions they put together after listening to prior shows and looking over some Think Tank exhibits. Patterson does a hell of a job stumbling through them and only answers like 5% of them in an hour... we also provide a little context for who Think Tank is and where we currently stand in the scheme of things. Enjoy this "behind the scenes" episode and let us know what you think!
1:23 - Reflecting on the podcast
2:40 - Jessica Bley
3:40 - Jacob gets into detail of how he got into the art world
6:15 - Transition to podcast questions
7:27 - When the Think Tank gallery was originally created what was the initial vision for the gallery? has that vision shifted along the way?
7:50 - John kennamann
8:50 - http://breweryartwalk.com
11:48 - Adam Bowden: http://instagram.com/adambodenphotography
12:45 - Putting go pros on couches and throwing them off roofs
12:15 - Sarah Penna’s Instagram and Twitter @sarah_penna
15:00 - Jacob explains what the Think Tank Gallery has become
15:40 - Where do you guys see the Think Tank Gallery at in 1 or 2 years? Has the gallery had a steady growth or has there been some set backs along the way? If so, how did you guys knock out those set backs?
16:03 - Jacob under threat of being arrested and went to court for an event
18:25 - Head butting a police captain
21:48 - What is your PR strategy moving forward?
22:50 - Moving out of the current Think Tank Gallery location
23:00 - http://nightonbroadway.la
25:05 - What are you guys defined by?
26:07 - If the Think Tank Gallery has to move locations, what does that mean for you guys?
28:40 - Tune into episode 8 for more on Andrew McGregor and his inspirational missions
29:28 - Looking back at episode 1 with Matt Dorado is it possible to make an event or production too simple? What critical details need to be paid attention to in every podcast?
Matt Dorado: www.thedrunkendevil.com
30:00 - What builds a Think Tank production now?
32:45 - Knowing the basics of what can shut down a production
34:00 - What are the philosophies in your life, do they relate to Andrew McGregor’s (episode 8)?
36:08 - The idea of an employer vs an employee
37:42 - How does the gallery balance taking on multiple projects at the same time; do you have any tips for the listeners?
38:45 - Separating what is urgent and what is important
41:46 - “The important things can get done before everyone wakes up or after everyone leaves the office.”
44:00 - How have you seen the podcast progress in both technical and artistic terms up to this point?
46:40 - Seth Goden https://twitter.com/ThisIsSethsBlog
The Time Ferriss Show Ep #177 with Seth Godin
49:00 - How have you focused your energy after the presidential election? Do you mix politics with your work at Think Tank Gallery?
50:50 - The Think Tank stepping out and not being afraid to say things that need to be said
54:45 - The desert with Scott Hove and mushroom trips (hear the full story on episode
55:15 - Kiran Gandhi:
55:26 - In what ways have you as directors had to exhibit improv skills similar to Jackie’s from Traphouse?
57:30 - Jacobs thoughts on having content before sharing and letting it exemplify what it is you do; not gunning for that big break unless its there.
1:02:11 - Next event at Think Tank Gallery Drinkin' Smokin' & West Coastin’ 3/18-4/20 stay updated at http://www.thinktankgallery.org
Where you can find Jacob Patterson:
Noah started NoPro when he decided that he wanted to find out more about the world of Immersive, and found there was no newsletter to follow. Years later he runs the definitive Guide to Immersive Entertainment in newsletter and deep-dive, long-form podcast format. He also records his show in our studio. We talk about the Ghost Ship fire, the world-changing Tension Experience, the fertile grounds for creation in LA, what Immersive Theatre is and how the term is abused, Think Tank's Trap House show, the paradigm-shifting advancements in VR, and the most important things that have happened in these worlds. If you don't know what Immersive is, you're in for a major lesson on what is in theory the most impacting art form in the world. If you do know what Immersive is, then you know Noah and you're excited to listen to this episode already.
3:51 - Introduction
5:57 - How do you feel about coming off haunt season?
6:41 - Noah’s thoughts on soul searching
8:21 - Noah’s day job with journalism, art and conflict with politics
8:51 - Jacob and Noah discuss the fire in Oakland
11:10 - Patricks thoughts on Facebook arguments
12:51 - Fuck Donald Trump
13:51 - Noah gives his thoughts on the Oakland fire and how it effected the people around him and the art world in general
17:36 - Read more about the Arts District development:
18:51 - Noah discusses how the Los Angeles Arts District is changing and shifting while real artists are being pushed out
22:41 - Patricks thoughts on the Oakland fire and what he thinks the number one reason DIY spaces get shut down
29:27 - “The problem is there is a lot of people out there with misinformation.”
36:51- Bryon Bishop articles
37:42 - Noah Nelson breaks down what Immersive theater is
40:46 - http://www.traphouse.la
41:21 - http://sleepnomorenyc.com/#share
42:16 - https://medium.com/@noahjnelson
44:31 - Patricks thoughts on Immersive theater
48:51 - Jacob talks about fearing the spotlight
52:49 - http://aureliafriedland.com/
56:01 - https://www.lytro.com
57:33 - Noah explains what the new Cinema camera is, what it can do and how it ties in with VR.
(read more on what a VR is here: http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/v/vr.htm)
1:01:36 - Did you go to the John Wolf abandoned hospital art show?
1:04:27 - Noah Nelson gives his input on non interactive immersive shows
1:05:47 - The idea of open frame theater
1:06:11 - “Interactive theater does not have to be immersive to be interactive.”
1:08:31 - Jacob describes his favorite rooms in John Wolfs abandoned hospital art show
1:09:21 - You say something can be interactive but not immersive; can you give an example of that?
1:09:34 - Annie Lesser: Getting To Know You
1:12:46 - Annie Lesser A(partment) 8
1:14:31 - Noah explains how escape rooms can be immersive
1:18:21 - Patrick, when you were developing this escape room did you feel like you were developing an immersive theater show?
1:18:51 - Patrick explains the Think Tank Galleries escape room in more detail
1:25:58 - If you had to go back and change something Patrick, what would you do differently?
1:31:51 - Noah explains what The Delusion is
1:32:26 - Jacob gets wet off vocabulary
1:37:00 - Andrew McGregor:
1:39:11 - http://www.enterdelusion.com
1:40:26 - If you had to asses what about Delusion makes it a stand out what would you say?
1:43:30 - What is The Tension Experience?
1:45:51 - Noah explains what one of the stories for Tension was
1:49:51 - Stripping down in The Tension Experience
1:56:04- Manipulating and brainwashing
2:00:56 - Patrick explains what Darren Lynn did at The Think Tank Gallery
2:10:26 - Megan Reilly:
2:14:16 - “The real currency is the attention the audience gives and if the company feeds it back.”
2:16:31 - If a 20 year old high energy individual was hopping in the arena right now, what kind of things would you want to see them do with all that energy?
2:18:24 - What was the first immersive theater show that you ever attended?
Did you go to New York specifically to see those shows?
2:22:21 - Where you can find more of Noah Nelson
Kiran Gandhi has spoken to thousands of people about her particular way of changing the world, and has implemented into her performance art such unusual strategies as dripping menstrual blood while running marathons. We've known each other since before either of us gained audiences so sitting down to talk about how to responsibly reach those audiences while on the mic with them is an introspective affair. She is one of the best musicians we know, one of the smartest people we've met, and one of the most interesting women you could come across. She believes that the Future is Female and we're on board with that idea after this chat. We hope you will be, as well.
3:05 - Is google consciously not that female friendly?
4:55 - Jessica Wethington Mclean:
5:15 - Kiran’s thoughts on stay home dads and taking on roles as a parent
6:15 - Kiran gives a little run down on who she is and what she does
10:04 - What was your major in college?
10:55 - Within Kiran’s first two months of living in Los Angeles she got a full time job at Interscope as their first ever digital analyst.
11:03 - http://www.interscope.com
14:05 - Did you set out a goal to make a job out of your internship before they gave you an official job?
15:18 - How did you navigate from Interscope to Spotify?
17:00 - Was going to school for your MBA worth it?
17:05 - https://www.spotify.com/us/
18:05 - Speaking confidently and critically has helped Kiran as a consultant and an artist.
18:35 - Did you start your own company?
19:15 - Kiran explains how doing free panels has helped her
21:00 - https://www.spotify.com/us/
21:17 - Streaming services
21:55 - Kiran’s business plan and how she thinks artists should be getting paid a bigger percentage
23:09 - The dangers of labels knowing what music is more valuable than others and how that makes artists change their music
24:48 - Kiran explains what “gating content” means.
26:22 - Where do you listen to your music at?
27:55 - Kiran’s thoughts on artists putting their own music onto Spotify
30:41 - Are you on Spotify? Who would you imagine seeing next to you as related artists?
31:15 - How did you get involved with MIA?
32:10 - Sinziana Velicescu:
34:45 - One of the most interesting things about you is that you try to get difficult ideas across to audiences when they may or may not want to hear them; why don’t you talk about your band and how you are trying to do that.
36:10 - Runson Willis:
Do you love - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Zj4S9dbQI
36:53 - http://www.madamegandhi.com
38:25 - Madame Gandhi EP
38:35 - Were you apart of the invention for the phrase “The future is female?”
38:45 - Check out Otherwilds collection here:
39:45 - You have this idea of the four levers of social change; how did you come up with this metaphor and implement it?
45:15 - Which levers do you think are the most difficult to pull?
47:15 - Where to find Kiran Ghandi:
Read Kiran’s interview with Rolling Stone here:
49:43 - Music begins